1
00:00:04,130 --> 00:00:01,790
somewhere in the skies is brought to you

2
00:00:06,349 --> 00:00:04,140
by hello fresh delicious healthy food

3
00:00:06,829 --> 00:00:06,359
delivered to your door and made in your

4
00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:06,839
kitchen

5
00:00:10,190 --> 00:00:08,250
next time you're listening to the show

6
00:00:12,890 --> 00:00:10,200
while preparing your hello fresh meal

7
00:00:16,250 --> 00:00:12,900
visit hello fresh CA and use the promo

8
00:00:18,470 --> 00:00:16,260
code somewhere 54 50% off your first box

9
00:00:23,269 --> 00:00:18,480
courtesy of your friends at the antica

10
00:00:25,550 --> 00:00:23,279
podcast network and hellofresh hey guys

11
00:00:27,710 --> 00:00:25,560
Ryan Sprague here as you all know this

12
00:00:30,230 --> 00:00:27,720
summer in the skies podcast is always

13
00:00:32,389 --> 00:00:30,240
free to consume but it isn't free to

14
00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:32,399
create that's why I've started this

15
00:00:37,010 --> 00:00:34,290
somewhere in the skies patreon campaign

16
00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:37,020
on a monthly basis you give what you

17
00:00:41,690 --> 00:00:38,850
think the show is worth you'll be

18
00:00:44,180 --> 00:00:41,700
helping the show continue grow and to be

19
00:00:46,369 --> 00:00:44,190
something truly communal and remember

20
00:00:48,470 --> 00:00:46,379
there are rewards for each level of

21
00:00:50,990 --> 00:00:48,480
contribution and the list is only

22
00:00:53,389 --> 00:00:51,000
growing so please help somewhere in the

23
00:00:58,250 --> 00:00:53,399
skies now by becoming a patron to

24
00:01:01,400 --> 00:00:58,260
contribute and to learn more visit wwm

25
00:01:03,300 --> 00:01:01,410
backslash somewhere skies thank you for

26
00:01:12,039 --> 00:01:03,310
your support and now on with the show

27
00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:16,660
this is somewhere in the skies

28
00:01:43,069 --> 00:01:40,610
[Music]

29
00:01:46,190 --> 00:01:43,079
welcome to somewhere in the skies I'm

30
00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:46,200
your host Ryan Sprague this week we're

31
00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:48,450
gonna do something completely different

32
00:01:53,779 --> 00:01:51,210
and admittedly should have happened much

33
00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:53,789
sooner when I first started the podcast

34
00:01:59,870 --> 00:01:56,610
I pronounced that it would pick up or my

35
00:02:02,330 --> 00:01:59,880
book of the same name left off and the

36
00:02:05,090 --> 00:02:02,340
book focused primarily on those who've

37
00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:05,100
witnessed and experienced the UFO

38
00:02:10,279 --> 00:02:07,890
phenomenon firsthand and while I've

39
00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:10,289
interviewed many researchers and others

40
00:02:15,050 --> 00:02:11,970
with an interest in this topic on the

41
00:02:17,930 --> 00:02:15,060
show the core of this entire mystery

42
00:02:21,170 --> 00:02:17,940
rests on the shoulders of the witness

43
00:02:23,300 --> 00:02:21,180
always so today you're going to hear

44
00:02:26,140 --> 00:02:23,310
four separate accounts from four

45
00:02:29,780 --> 00:02:26,150
separate witnesses they spend decades

46
00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:29,790
continents and experiences my heartfelt

47
00:02:35,479 --> 00:02:32,970
thanks goes out to Vance Ciaran Scott

48
00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:35,489
and Brian for sharing their stories

49
00:02:41,660 --> 00:02:38,850
today these stories genuinely interested

50
00:02:44,509 --> 00:02:41,670
and mystified me and I hope they will do

51
00:02:46,879 --> 00:02:44,519
the same for you but more importantly I

52
00:02:50,090 --> 00:02:46,889
hope you'll share these accounts with

53
00:02:52,460 --> 00:02:50,100
others maybe just maybe one more person

54
00:02:54,590 --> 00:02:52,470
will have the courage as these four did

55
00:02:57,319 --> 00:02:54,600
to come forward with their own stories

56
00:03:00,559 --> 00:02:57,329
and we can then move forward without

57
00:03:02,620 --> 00:03:00,569
ridicule or hesitancy and begin to

58
00:03:05,420 --> 00:03:02,630
embrace these deeply profound

59
00:03:10,009 --> 00:03:05,430
experiences somewhere in the skies I

60
00:03:13,940 --> 00:03:10,019
hope you enjoy hey Ryan

61
00:03:17,270 --> 00:03:13,950
thank you for asking us to do this I'm

62
00:03:19,250 --> 00:03:17,280
Vance Nesbitt but I appreciate you

63
00:03:21,580 --> 00:03:19,260
asking and putting the word out there

64
00:03:25,339 --> 00:03:21,590
because I love to hear other people's

65
00:03:27,589 --> 00:03:25,349
UFO experiences my experience it was

66
00:03:30,229 --> 00:03:27,599
actually my first experience into

67
00:03:31,909 --> 00:03:30,239
anything strange or abnormal or

68
00:03:34,339 --> 00:03:31,919
paranormal however you want to

69
00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:34,349
categorize it but it was my first

70
00:03:41,270 --> 00:03:37,650
experience I was either six or seven

71
00:03:45,410 --> 00:03:41,280
years old we lived in a two-story house

72
00:03:46,770 --> 00:03:45,420
in the rural suburbs of Chicago what I

73
00:03:50,730 --> 00:03:46,780
mean by that it was

74
00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:50,740
undeveloped urban or suburban area there

75
00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:52,690
were houses being built sporadically

76
00:03:56,970 --> 00:03:54,130
throughout the neighborhood but it

77
00:03:59,580 --> 00:03:56,980
really was not a fully developed a

78
00:04:01,800 --> 00:03:59,590
neighborhood yet anyway

79
00:04:04,110 --> 00:04:01,810
the two-story house my bedroom was up on

80
00:04:07,050 --> 00:04:04,120
the second floor along with my parents

81
00:04:10,430 --> 00:04:07,060
and I was laying in bed and looking out

82
00:04:14,610 --> 00:04:10,440
the bedroom window I had noticed this

83
00:04:16,860 --> 00:04:14,620
bright light just above the horizon and

84
00:04:19,170 --> 00:04:16,870
it was through the trees but off in the

85
00:04:21,780 --> 00:04:19,180
distance but it was a relatively bright

86
00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:21,790
light but it was similar to that of an

87
00:04:27,420 --> 00:04:24,730
aircraft as you see sometimes you know

88
00:04:29,490 --> 00:04:27,430
the aircraft has its landing lights on

89
00:04:32,250 --> 00:04:29,500
it's there's a lot of candle power

90
00:04:36,780 --> 00:04:32,260
behind it but it stayed there for what

91
00:04:38,820 --> 00:04:36,790
seemed like an odd amount of time but I

92
00:04:40,409 --> 00:04:38,830
didn't pay much attention to it because

93
00:04:44,670 --> 00:04:40,419
again I've never had an experience

94
00:04:46,620 --> 00:04:44,680
before and I remember my mother calling

95
00:04:48,780 --> 00:04:46,630
my father now my mom was in her bedroom

96
00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:48,790
reading a book or at least I can

97
00:04:52,260 --> 00:04:50,530
remember that she was reading a book and

98
00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:52,270
it caught her attention out her bedroom

99
00:04:56,580 --> 00:04:54,730
window and she called my father up from

100
00:04:59,760 --> 00:04:56,590
downstairs and I overheard their

101
00:05:01,710 --> 00:04:59,770
conversation of my mother saying that

102
00:05:04,409 --> 00:05:01,720
she's been watching this bright light in

103
00:05:08,130 --> 00:05:04,419
the sky for about 15 minutes and it's

104
00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:08,140
really not doing much and I flew up out

105
00:05:12,150 --> 00:05:09,850
of bed and I ran in their bedroom like

106
00:05:14,340 --> 00:05:12,160
yes I see a - I see a - and I was all

107
00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:14,350
excited as a kid and wow what is this

108
00:05:19,590 --> 00:05:17,530
and we watched it out their bedroom

109
00:05:21,570 --> 00:05:19,600
window another bedroom window was more a

110
00:05:25,469 --> 00:05:21,580
picture window style so it was pretty

111
00:05:27,719 --> 00:05:25,479
relatively big window but we all ended

112
00:05:31,020 --> 00:05:27,729
up going downstairs and outside into the

113
00:05:34,170 --> 00:05:31,030
backyard at that time the property was

114
00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:34,180
about one acre and we stood out in the

115
00:05:39,090 --> 00:05:36,850
backyard and we saw this light slowly

116
00:05:41,310 --> 00:05:39,100
approaching closer to us it was getting

117
00:05:44,159 --> 00:05:41,320
larger and larger but it was approaching

118
00:05:48,060 --> 00:05:44,169
closer to us but it was moving so slowly

119
00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:48,070
and now looking back on it from that

120
00:05:53,610 --> 00:05:51,010
experience I would guess that it was

121
00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:53,620
probably anywhere between 1,200 to 1,300

122
00:06:00,119 --> 00:05:57,370
feet in elevation above us but it was

123
00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:00,129
moving so slow and dead silent there

124
00:06:03,359 --> 00:06:02,649
was no engine noise nothing just dead

125
00:06:07,709 --> 00:06:03,369
silence

126
00:06:09,479 --> 00:06:07,719
but as this whatever it was craft was

127
00:06:12,359 --> 00:06:09,489
coming overhead

128
00:06:14,790 --> 00:06:12,369
none of us could identify an outlined

129
00:06:17,639 --> 00:06:14,800
image we couldn't see it as a triangle

130
00:06:20,579 --> 00:06:17,649
or round shape or an aircraft anything

131
00:06:23,309 --> 00:06:20,589
what all we saw was this front landing

132
00:06:26,699 --> 00:06:23,319
light which is now not so bright because

133
00:06:31,109 --> 00:06:26,709
it was aimed forward but as it started

134
00:06:35,189 --> 00:06:31,119
to approach overhead over our property

135
00:06:37,619 --> 00:06:35,199
and the you know surrounding homes this

136
00:06:40,019 --> 00:06:37,629
bright light came on on the bottom of

137
00:06:42,749 --> 00:06:40,029
this craft now it's not your typical UFO

138
00:06:45,899 --> 00:06:42,759
straight beam of white light it lit up

139
00:06:47,879 --> 00:06:45,909
everything in as far as I could see it

140
00:06:52,290 --> 00:06:47,889
was lighting up everything the

141
00:06:55,739 --> 00:06:52,300
neighbor's house our yard as far as I

142
00:06:58,889 --> 00:06:55,749
could see to the left and right and it

143
00:07:01,619 --> 00:06:58,899
was such a profound and chilling

144
00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:01,629
experience but it only came on for no

145
00:07:05,879 --> 00:07:03,849
more than three seconds and even three

146
00:07:07,919 --> 00:07:05,889
seconds is probably pushing it it may

147
00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:07,929
have only been one full second two maybe

148
00:07:14,249 --> 00:07:11,050
two seconds but looking back on it you

149
00:07:16,619 --> 00:07:14,259
know to count three seconds that's what

150
00:07:19,739 --> 00:07:16,629
it might have been the light went off

151
00:07:21,779 --> 00:07:19,749
and this craft just kept floating

152
00:07:24,959 --> 00:07:21,789
whatever it was because like I said we

153
00:07:27,179 --> 00:07:24,969
could not see any defined edges of it it

154
00:07:29,730 --> 00:07:27,189
was dark out I don't remember if it was

155
00:07:33,719 --> 00:07:29,740
clear or cloudy but I do remember we

156
00:07:36,689 --> 00:07:33,729
could not identify any edges to whatever

157
00:07:39,419 --> 00:07:36,699
this thing was other than that light on

158
00:07:42,179 --> 00:07:39,429
the front end of this thing as it was

159
00:07:45,659 --> 00:07:42,189
moving away and we watched it for a

160
00:07:47,939 --> 00:07:45,669
total of about 40 minutes from the time

161
00:07:50,699 --> 00:07:47,949
when I first noticed it off the horizon

162
00:07:52,859 --> 00:07:50,709
till it just ripped it off out of sight

163
00:07:56,069 --> 00:07:52,869
behind the trees and we couldn't see it

164
00:07:58,409 --> 00:07:56,079
anymore but the strange thing is you

165
00:08:00,269 --> 00:07:58,419
know I don't remember to this day if I

166
00:08:02,369 --> 00:08:00,279
ever had a conversation with my mom and

167
00:08:04,019 --> 00:08:02,379
dad about what their opinion was about

168
00:08:06,709 --> 00:08:04,029
this whole thing I'm sure we talked

169
00:08:08,909 --> 00:08:06,719
about it I just don't retain any

170
00:08:11,459 --> 00:08:08,919
information after that I think probably

171
00:08:13,420 --> 00:08:11,469
because all the neurons in the brain

172
00:08:16,090 --> 00:08:13,430
were firing as to what this

173
00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:16,100
strange experience was but it threw me

174
00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:19,730
into a threw me into this whole world to

175
00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:21,170
begin with so thanks for letting me

176
00:08:25,540 --> 00:08:21,730
share

177
00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:25,550
hi my name is Karen I come from the West

178
00:08:33,430 --> 00:08:28,610
Midlands in England and my UFO sighting

179
00:08:35,170 --> 00:08:33,440
took place early March 2013 I was with

180
00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:35,180
my brother at the time we're on our way

181
00:08:39,100 --> 00:08:37,370
back from our weekly rugby session on

182
00:08:41,050 --> 00:08:39,110
the way back we drive for a replace

183
00:08:43,420 --> 00:08:41,060
called ronsley it's on the outskirts of

184
00:08:46,330 --> 00:08:43,430
our home town house of it roms leaves a

185
00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:46,340
little bit of countryside it's quite

186
00:08:51,220 --> 00:08:47,930
hilly and when you get to the top

187
00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:51,230
there's a huge open space and you can

188
00:08:57,570 --> 00:08:54,770
see for miles you can see Birmingham in

189
00:09:00,820 --> 00:08:57,580
the distance the city of Birmingham and

190
00:09:03,190 --> 00:09:00,830
as we were nearing the top there's this

191
00:09:08,740 --> 00:09:03,200
tree line either side of you with the

192
00:09:11,380 --> 00:09:08,750
occasional farmhouse and a huge white

193
00:09:15,820 --> 00:09:11,390
light caught my eye out to my right hand

194
00:09:17,260 --> 00:09:15,830
side and I slowed my car a little bit

195
00:09:20,470 --> 00:09:17,270
but it was difficult to focus on the

196
00:09:23,110 --> 00:09:20,480
light because of the tree line my first

197
00:09:24,660 --> 00:09:23,120
instinct was maybe was the motorway

198
00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:24,670
because it was a motorway that runs

199
00:09:31,930 --> 00:09:27,410
slightly parallel with the road I was

200
00:09:33,730 --> 00:09:31,940
taken but I soon realized that the

201
00:09:35,980 --> 00:09:33,740
motorway was in the distance I could

202
00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:35,990
make that out and the light kept

203
00:09:42,550 --> 00:09:38,210
appearing and disappearing behind the

204
00:09:47,410 --> 00:09:42,560
trees slowed my car not not to a stuff

205
00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:47,420
but I slowed it dramatically we kept we

206
00:09:52,210 --> 00:09:49,130
kept driving up towards the top of the

207
00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:52,220
hill my brother would spotted it too by

208
00:09:58,690 --> 00:09:55,970
this point as we neared the tuff the

209
00:10:01,810 --> 00:09:58,700
light got a lot bigger there was no one

210
00:10:04,170 --> 00:10:01,820
around which is just as well because I'm

211
00:10:08,830 --> 00:10:04,180
sure would have annoyed them driving so

212
00:10:14,790 --> 00:10:08,840
slowly eventually I put my I put my

213
00:10:21,670 --> 00:10:17,200
spalled Jobs got pulled over before I

214
00:10:24,370 --> 00:10:21,680
turn managed enough the light all of a

215
00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:24,380
sudden became a shape at this point

216
00:10:26,770 --> 00:10:25,850
we're at the top of ronsley so it's that

217
00:10:32,140 --> 00:10:26,780
big open space

218
00:10:34,450 --> 00:10:32,150
I mentioned earlier the the craft was I

219
00:10:40,060 --> 00:10:34,460
would say no more than a thousand feet

220
00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:40,070
high and it was triangular at first I

221
00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:42,530
thought it was rectangular I remember

222
00:10:51,460 --> 00:10:46,250
saying to my brother you know it's it's

223
00:10:55,630 --> 00:10:51,470
it's oblong its rectangular my brother

224
00:10:56,110 --> 00:10:55,640
said I think it's triangular and he was

225
00:10:59,290 --> 00:10:56,120
right

226
00:11:04,240 --> 00:10:59,300
as my always focused on the shape a

227
00:11:07,410 --> 00:11:04,250
little bit more it became triangular we

228
00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:07,420
sat there probably for about 10 seconds

229
00:11:12,730 --> 00:11:10,970
staring at this thing going past us if

230
00:11:17,500 --> 00:11:12,740
I'd have carried on driving at 30 miles

231
00:11:19,900 --> 00:11:17,510
an hour we would have outrun it easily

232
00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:19,910
it was it was quite literally just

233
00:11:26,530 --> 00:11:23,930
cruising through the sky and the lights

234
00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:26,540
at this point there were two lights they

235
00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:28,610
were at the rear corners of the craft

236
00:11:33,970 --> 00:11:30,890
there was no light in the center and no

237
00:11:36,730 --> 00:11:33,980
light at the front as he's coming with

238
00:11:40,300 --> 00:11:36,740
triangular crafts that I've looked into

239
00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:40,310
before and since my sighting two lights

240
00:11:47,890 --> 00:11:46,010
were at the rear cornice what what hit

241
00:11:49,770 --> 00:11:47,900
me the most of the time was the silence

242
00:11:52,390 --> 00:11:49,780
of the craft

243
00:11:56,140 --> 00:11:52,400
obviously we're near Birmingham city

244
00:12:00,430 --> 00:11:56,150
centre so we get a lot of planes in the

245
00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:00,440
sky from the airport we also get a lot

246
00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:01,850
of helicopters flying around police

247
00:12:07,210 --> 00:12:04,970
helicopters and that and these were you

248
00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:07,220
know these flight a much higher altitude

249
00:12:12,730 --> 00:12:11,450
than this craft was and you can hear

250
00:12:16,810 --> 00:12:12,740
them you know sometimes you can hear

251
00:12:20,290 --> 00:12:16,820
planes yet you can't see them but this

252
00:12:21,820 --> 00:12:20,300
thing was silent deathly silent there

253
00:12:25,540 --> 00:12:21,830
was no one else around it was a bit like

254
00:12:29,980 --> 00:12:25,550
so it's about quad 210 quiet part of the

255
00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:29,990
road and there was not a noise to be

256
00:12:35,980 --> 00:12:33,530
heard my engine was off at this point my

257
00:12:37,620 --> 00:12:35,990
window was down and we just could not

258
00:12:41,130 --> 00:12:37,630
hear a thing

259
00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:41,140
that was very very disturbing actually

260
00:12:48,450 --> 00:12:45,690
just watching this finger huge I'd say

261
00:12:52,470 --> 00:12:48,460
I'd say the craft was probably around

262
00:12:54,450 --> 00:12:52,480
about a little smaller than a football

263
00:13:00,330 --> 00:12:54,460
pitch that's a soccer pitch to any

264
00:13:03,060 --> 00:13:00,340
American listeners a little smaller it

265
00:13:04,410 --> 00:13:03,070
was for that size you'd think there

266
00:13:06,030 --> 00:13:04,420
would be a noise but there really wasn't

267
00:13:09,770 --> 00:13:06,040
I have to emphasize the fact that there

268
00:13:17,580 --> 00:13:12,180
eventually the craft did start to go

269
00:13:19,230 --> 00:13:17,590
past us I remember me and my brother

270
00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:19,240
constantly asking each other you know

271
00:13:25,050 --> 00:13:21,090
what what the hell is this thing

272
00:13:27,060 --> 00:13:25,060
we're both we're both big lads you know

273
00:13:30,270 --> 00:13:27,070
we can look after ourselves but this

274
00:13:34,140 --> 00:13:30,280
this incident really scared us we were I

275
00:13:36,690 --> 00:13:34,150
remember I began crying and don't know

276
00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:36,700
why I'm not ashamed to admit it I began

277
00:13:41,820 --> 00:13:39,850
to cry shortly followed by my brother

278
00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:41,830
actually he began to cry and neither of

279
00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:45,490
us knew why we couldn't explain why we

280
00:13:51,780 --> 00:13:47,650
were crying but we were scared he was he

281
00:13:52,830 --> 00:13:51,790
was petrifying I'm not a huge fan of

282
00:13:55,650 --> 00:13:52,840
aviation

283
00:13:58,530 --> 00:13:55,660
I don't follow planes I don't follow

284
00:14:01,380 --> 00:13:58,540
anything like that but I could tell that

285
00:14:06,470 --> 00:14:01,390
it was something that I'd never heard of

286
00:14:09,230 --> 00:14:06,480
or seen or knew was out there really the

287
00:14:12,590 --> 00:14:09,240
craft eventually started to take over us

288
00:14:15,900 --> 00:14:12,600
at which point I started my engine and

289
00:14:19,110 --> 00:14:15,910
began following it we began going back

290
00:14:23,010 --> 00:14:19,120
down the hill and the tree line began to

291
00:14:24,860 --> 00:14:23,020
appear again and it kind of disappeared

292
00:14:27,420 --> 00:14:24,870
behind the trees

293
00:14:30,270 --> 00:14:27,430
and we could still see the log probably

294
00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:30,280
for another 200 yards 250 yards and then

295
00:14:39,090 --> 00:14:33,850
like eventually vanished and there was

296
00:14:40,940 --> 00:14:39,100
nothing there we were still very scared

297
00:14:43,550 --> 00:14:40,950
I remember actually at the point of

298
00:14:47,579 --> 00:14:43,560
beginning my car again I remember

299
00:14:49,689 --> 00:14:47,589
looking at the clock to see if the if

300
00:14:52,809 --> 00:14:49,699
the time was the same because

301
00:14:55,989 --> 00:14:52,819
as I've alluded to previously I do

302
00:14:58,210 --> 00:14:55,999
research a lot of this stuff a missing

303
00:14:59,499 --> 00:14:58,220
time was on my mind at that time I just

304
00:15:01,689 --> 00:14:59,509
wanted to make sure that nothing had

305
00:15:04,889 --> 00:15:01,699
happened that I wasn't aware of

306
00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:04,899
fortunately the time was was about right

307
00:15:11,289 --> 00:15:07,730
as we descended down you begin to enter

308
00:15:16,599 --> 00:15:11,299
our hometown of how siren becomes a bit

309
00:15:19,030 --> 00:15:16,609
more populated houses either side of you

310
00:15:23,049 --> 00:15:19,040
and in the distance you can see the

311
00:15:27,669 --> 00:15:23,059
church spire of house or in what was

312
00:15:30,159 --> 00:15:27,679
interesting was as we were right right

313
00:15:32,019 --> 00:15:30,169
on the outskirts of the town we saw this

314
00:15:36,639 --> 00:15:32,029
bright light in the sky just above the

315
00:15:40,389 --> 00:15:36,649
church probably about a mile in the

316
00:15:43,989 --> 00:15:40,399
distance and this light was going up and

317
00:15:45,429 --> 00:15:43,999
it was fading as it was going up what

318
00:15:47,979 --> 00:15:45,439
was interesting about it was it wasn't

319
00:15:50,139 --> 00:15:47,989
fading because it was going you know

320
00:15:52,449 --> 00:15:50,149
because it was he wasn't getting smaller

321
00:15:55,389 --> 00:15:52,459
because of the increased height it

322
00:15:59,499 --> 00:15:55,399
seemed to just simply be fading out and

323
00:16:02,529 --> 00:15:59,509
eventually after about five ten seconds

324
00:16:04,929 --> 00:16:02,539
it eventually disappeared I'm not saying

325
00:16:06,729 --> 00:16:04,939
that that light is in any way related to

326
00:16:09,789 --> 00:16:06,739
what we saw I just find it very

327
00:16:12,939 --> 00:16:09,799
interesting that in the space of about a

328
00:16:17,169 --> 00:16:12,949
mini we saw these two things they could

329
00:16:20,169 --> 00:16:17,179
be related but I'm not sure we were home

330
00:16:24,099 --> 00:16:20,179
probably about five minutes after seeing

331
00:16:25,359 --> 00:16:24,109
that light and the first thing we were

332
00:16:27,849 --> 00:16:25,369
both living with our parents at the time

333
00:16:30,989 --> 00:16:27,859
and the first thing we did when we

334
00:16:33,039 --> 00:16:30,999
walked in we were still visibly shaken I

335
00:16:37,090 --> 00:16:33,049
remember having to walk my always before

336
00:16:39,699 --> 00:16:37,100
I walked in to see my mom and dad and we

337
00:16:43,779 --> 00:16:39,709
told them what had happened and I kind

338
00:16:45,909 --> 00:16:43,789
of they looked at us as if you know but

339
00:16:49,689 --> 00:16:45,919
are they having a laugh are they mocking

340
00:16:51,069 --> 00:16:49,699
us but at the same time you could see

341
00:16:57,099 --> 00:16:51,079
there was slightly worried

342
00:16:58,929 --> 00:16:57,109
ever-so-slightly what's what pleases me

343
00:17:02,809 --> 00:16:58,939
is that my brother was with me at the

344
00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:02,819
time I'm the the UFO not of

345
00:17:07,100 --> 00:17:05,850
family my brother very rarely shows an

346
00:17:09,409 --> 00:17:07,110
interest in it I could have a

347
00:17:12,009 --> 00:17:09,419
conversation with him about it but it

348
00:17:13,220 --> 00:17:12,019
wouldn't hold his attention for too long

349
00:17:14,689 --> 00:17:13,230
yeah

350
00:17:16,999 --> 00:17:14,699
I'm glad he was with me because he

351
00:17:17,689 --> 00:17:17,009
validated everything also he saw exactly

352
00:17:20,980 --> 00:17:17,699
what I saw

353
00:17:23,659 --> 00:17:20,990
he felt what I felt and that allowed

354
00:17:26,120 --> 00:17:23,669
people like my mom and dad our guests to

355
00:17:27,799 --> 00:17:26,130
believe me a little bit more because if

356
00:17:29,810 --> 00:17:27,809
I'd have been on my own they probably

357
00:17:31,580 --> 00:17:29,820
would have doubted me thinking I'd made

358
00:17:34,749 --> 00:17:31,590
it up because that's something I've

359
00:17:37,369 --> 00:17:34,759
always wanted to see but my brother's

360
00:17:38,990 --> 00:17:37,379
prefer witnessing it as well gave me a

361
00:17:39,830 --> 00:17:39,000
lot of credence I did a lot of credence

362
00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:39,840
to my story

363
00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:41,370
I remembered not I couldn't get it out

364
00:17:47,930 --> 00:17:44,490
of my head I rang my partner at the time

365
00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:47,940
and told her what what had happened

366
00:17:54,649 --> 00:17:51,570
again she was you know she was kind of

367
00:17:56,419 --> 00:17:54,659
humoring me I guess she wasn't massively

368
00:17:58,820 --> 00:17:56,429
interested in it and to this day she's

369
00:18:02,629 --> 00:17:58,830
not massively interested in the subject

370
00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:02,639
really it I felt alone a little bit I

371
00:18:08,749 --> 00:18:05,610
spoke to my brother about it but he very

372
00:18:10,460 --> 00:18:08,759
quickly withdrew from the subject I'm

373
00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:10,470
not sure whether he just didn't have an

374
00:18:14,060 --> 00:18:11,850
interest in it I'm not sure whether it

375
00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:14,070
frightened him to the point that he

376
00:18:18,950 --> 00:18:15,210
didn't want to talk about it I'm not

377
00:18:21,710 --> 00:18:18,960
sure but he he was very he's very quiet

378
00:18:23,690 --> 00:18:21,720
and I felt alone I didn't have anybody

379
00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:23,700
really to talk to didn't have anybody to

380
00:18:29,149 --> 00:18:27,210
turn to some people you know lent me

381
00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:29,159
support of course but it didn't quite

382
00:18:37,519 --> 00:18:32,490
feel like they were taking me serious as

383
00:18:40,419 --> 00:18:37,529
I'd like them to have done and that that

384
00:18:42,799 --> 00:18:40,429
was the sowing really and then really

385
00:18:45,230 --> 00:18:42,809
done that for the next few days I was

386
00:18:46,940 --> 00:18:45,240
still shaking and you know even now when

387
00:18:49,820 --> 00:18:46,950
I think about it I just can't get my

388
00:18:52,190 --> 00:18:49,830
head around what it was I saw I've

389
00:18:58,460 --> 00:18:52,200
spoken to my brother a few times since

390
00:19:02,779 --> 00:18:58,470
about it but nothing too deep yeah so I

391
00:19:04,430 --> 00:19:02,789
mean in terms of what it was I I have no

392
00:19:10,460 --> 00:19:04,440
idea it's something obvious go for about

393
00:19:12,379 --> 00:19:10,470
quite a lot was it an alien craft I

394
00:19:14,330 --> 00:19:12,389
don't know was a government craft I

395
00:19:16,330 --> 00:19:14,340
don't know it was definitely something

396
00:19:18,650 --> 00:19:16,340
that I've never seen

397
00:19:21,710 --> 00:19:18,660
you know I've never seen this type of

398
00:19:25,220 --> 00:19:21,720
craft on a documentary I've never seen

399
00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:25,230
it an airport I've never seen it's in a

400
00:19:32,830 --> 00:19:29,370
film unless it's a sci-fi type film I've

401
00:19:35,570 --> 00:19:32,840
never seen this this craft yes I a

402
00:19:37,250 --> 00:19:35,580
person the odd I'd like to think it was

403
00:19:39,470 --> 00:19:37,260
aliens because that's my that's a

404
00:19:40,820 --> 00:19:39,480
passion of mine to to research that kind

405
00:19:45,110 --> 00:19:40,830
of thing whoever it was or not though

406
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:45,120
I'm really not too sure

407
00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:48,690
hopefully that's giving you a bit of bit

408
00:19:57,049 --> 00:19:53,370
of an in-depth into what it is I've I've

409
00:20:00,070 --> 00:19:57,059
seen interestingly since that I'm citing

410
00:20:04,010 --> 00:20:00,080
both me and my brother have seen more

411
00:20:07,460 --> 00:20:04,020
lights in the sky shall we say then I'd

412
00:20:09,169 --> 00:20:07,470
ever seen before that we both have a

413
00:20:13,419 --> 00:20:09,179
much more open mind now as to what it is

414
00:20:16,730 --> 00:20:13,429
that we're looking at in the sky so yeah

415
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:16,740
that's me thank you very much for

416
00:20:21,620 --> 00:20:20,250
listening to what I have to say and I'll

417
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:21,630
speak - thank you

418
00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:24,090
hey guys I have to interrupt this week's

419
00:20:27,590 --> 00:20:25,890
interview for just a moment to remind

420
00:20:29,659 --> 00:20:27,600
you once again that somewhere in the

421
00:20:32,510 --> 00:20:29,669
skies is brought to you by the amazing

422
00:20:33,980 --> 00:20:32,520
folks over at hellofresh next time

423
00:20:35,990 --> 00:20:33,990
you're listening to the show while

424
00:20:38,030 --> 00:20:36,000
making your delicious healthy hellofresh

425
00:20:39,890 --> 00:20:38,040
meal be sure to tell a friend about the

426
00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:39,900
amazing offer we're currently giving

427
00:20:44,780 --> 00:20:42,210
away by using the promo code somewhere

428
00:20:47,990 --> 00:20:44,790
50 new hellofresh members will receive

429
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:48,000
50% off the first box and trust me guys

430
00:20:52,610 --> 00:20:49,770
I tried three of their amazing

431
00:20:55,820 --> 00:20:52,620
vegetarian dinners and I was instantly

432
00:20:57,890 --> 00:20:55,830
hooked it's fast it's easy and in under

433
00:21:00,289 --> 00:20:57,900
a half hour you have a meal the whole

434
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:00,299
family will enjoy consider hellofresh

435
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:03,690
today by visiting hellofresh CA and

436
00:21:08,990 --> 00:21:06,570
again using the promo code somewhere 50

437
00:21:11,030 --> 00:21:09,000
courtesy of your friends at the Antica

438
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:11,040
podcast network and hellofresh

439
00:21:23,299 --> 00:21:18,500
Scott Santa I'm doing this on behalf of

440
00:21:25,990 --> 00:21:23,309
Ryan spray I'm 61 years old retired from

441
00:21:29,180 --> 00:21:26,000
the United States Coast Guard and

442
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:29,190
disability retired from the Postal

443
00:21:34,610 --> 00:21:31,890
Service that was a new fun feeling

444
00:21:42,580 --> 00:21:34,620
instigator for twenty four years before

445
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:42,590
I opted out I had an experience in 1974

446
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:47,610
August a date unknown I was at a

447
00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:49,530
drive-in theater here in my local town

448
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:51,840
it was my first year of college not much

449
00:21:55,399 --> 00:21:53,970
going on that night so I called a friend

450
00:21:58,399 --> 00:21:55,409
up and said hey let's go see these

451
00:22:02,270 --> 00:21:58,409
movies which movie they were I can tell

452
00:22:03,770 --> 00:22:02,280
you but anyway at the drive-in we get to

453
00:22:06,770 --> 00:22:03,780
the drive-in it was a beautiful summer

454
00:22:09,289 --> 00:22:06,780
evening stars everywhere

455
00:22:11,149 --> 00:22:09,299
clears could be just a just a

456
00:22:13,220 --> 00:22:11,159
picture-perfect summer evening

457
00:22:16,490 --> 00:22:13,230
well we parked in the back of the

458
00:22:23,860 --> 00:22:16,500
drive-in movie obviously looking for

459
00:22:28,310 --> 00:22:23,870
chicks and settled in to watch the movie

460
00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:28,320
well just not too long after we got

461
00:22:35,210 --> 00:22:30,960
there we got some food and stuff got

462
00:22:37,070 --> 00:22:35,220
back to the car and again settled in I

463
00:22:42,409 --> 00:22:37,080
noticed something out of the top of my

464
00:22:49,310 --> 00:22:42,419
eye and before I could react there was

465
00:22:51,049 --> 00:22:49,320
this huge Chevron thing for lack of

466
00:22:59,060 --> 00:22:51,059
better words I want to call it a flying

467
00:23:01,070 --> 00:22:59,070
craft but it it came from the west flank

468
00:23:04,460 --> 00:23:01,080
from the northwest actually to the

469
00:23:07,510 --> 00:23:04,470
southeast and it came just like right

470
00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:07,520
over top of the drive-in theater picture

471
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:12,960
the screen and it was its speed of

472
00:23:18,250 --> 00:23:14,730
advance might have been 10 miles an hour

473
00:23:21,860 --> 00:23:18,260
it just seemed to float rather than fly

474
00:23:26,419 --> 00:23:21,870
it wasn't bobbing and it never deviated

475
00:23:29,620 --> 00:23:26,429
from its flight flight path but it was

476
00:23:33,020 --> 00:23:29,630
entirely black there were no lights and

477
00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:33,030
there was absolutely no sound I mean

478
00:23:42,919 --> 00:23:41,330
I could see people getting out in the

479
00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:42,929
car and pointing up I looked at my

480
00:23:47,810 --> 00:23:45,809
friend Mike and I said are you seeing

481
00:23:50,230 --> 00:23:47,820
this he said oh yeah I mean what the

482
00:23:55,549 --> 00:23:50,240
hell is that weekend out of the car and

483
00:24:00,590 --> 00:23:55,559
we watched well as as the craft for lack

484
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:00,600
of a better word after the entirety of

485
00:24:08,570 --> 00:24:03,690
the craft was centered over the drive-in

486
00:24:12,289 --> 00:24:08,580
parking area all the lights went out the

487
00:24:15,409 --> 00:24:12,299
movie stopped lights in the concession

488
00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:15,419
stand all the everything went black it

489
00:24:21,769 --> 00:24:20,370
just went dark and and then and that was

490
00:24:24,350 --> 00:24:21,779
kind of freaky

491
00:24:27,049 --> 00:24:24,360
nobody was running away or panicking and

492
00:24:29,630 --> 00:24:27,059
I could tell people were pointing and

493
00:24:30,980 --> 00:24:29,640
looking each other like trying to affirm

494
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:30,990
that everybody was seeing what everybody

495
00:24:41,149 --> 00:24:35,690
else is seeing and that was the case

496
00:24:45,169 --> 00:24:41,159
about that time my ears popped I mean

497
00:24:48,620 --> 00:24:45,179
they really popped and I felt like I was

498
00:24:53,169 --> 00:24:48,630
in a vacuum and the best way to describe

499
00:24:57,799 --> 00:24:53,179
it would be like if you were walking

500
00:25:03,919 --> 00:24:57,809
under water it was you can almost see

501
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:03,929
the air shimmer around you and it was

502
00:25:10,190 --> 00:25:08,850
very difficult to focus and difficult to

503
00:25:11,810 --> 00:25:10,200
hear anything

504
00:25:13,460 --> 00:25:11,820
I could hear Mike he was on the other

505
00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:13,470
side of the car but I couldn't hear

506
00:25:17,210 --> 00:25:14,809
anything else

507
00:25:18,529 --> 00:25:17,220
you know well but we kind of just

508
00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:18,539
stopped talking to each other at that

509
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:24,480
point we're looking up and this thing it

510
00:25:30,529 --> 00:25:26,850
was so close at least it appeared that

511
00:25:33,470 --> 00:25:30,539
close I felt like I could have picked up

512
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:33,480
one of the gravel rocks and hit this

513
00:25:39,409 --> 00:25:35,690
thing if I threw it as hard as I could

514
00:25:43,519 --> 00:25:39,419
now this thing was huge I mean to tell

515
00:25:48,529 --> 00:25:43,529
you I'm guessing three football fields

516
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:48,539
for lack of a better word it it

517
00:25:54,919 --> 00:25:50,730
outflanked the length of the

518
00:26:01,609 --> 00:25:54,929
drive-in parking at least it appeared to

519
00:26:04,220 --> 00:26:01,619
do so from my vantage point and it was

520
00:26:06,859 --> 00:26:04,230
very strange and like I said it didn't

521
00:26:10,249 --> 00:26:06,869
travel fast so we got a good look at

522
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:10,259
this thing and it just kept on going

523
00:26:16,909 --> 00:26:13,679
again 10 maybe 15 miles an hour took a

524
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:16,919
long time for it to get over and we

525
00:26:21,979 --> 00:26:20,369
stood there and watched it and about the

526
00:26:25,310 --> 00:26:21,989
time it got to the rear end of the

527
00:26:29,149 --> 00:26:25,320
drive-in theater parking lot which

528
00:26:32,869 --> 00:26:29,159
behind it was undeveloped country back

529
00:26:34,729 --> 00:26:32,879
in that day but when it got to that

530
00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:34,739
point where it had cleared the back of

531
00:26:38,539 --> 00:26:36,480
the parking lot the movie came on the

532
00:26:40,909 --> 00:26:38,549
lights and the concession stand came on

533
00:26:42,619 --> 00:26:40,919
everybody's car came on if they had

534
00:26:48,619 --> 00:26:42,629
alone you could hear horns honking at

535
00:26:51,919 --> 00:26:48,629
this point and I watched this thing

536
00:26:53,659 --> 00:26:51,929
until it disappeared had never deviated

537
00:26:57,049 --> 00:26:53,669
its flight path it just kept going

538
00:27:01,519 --> 00:26:57,059
straight straight and straight that

539
00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:01,529
shimmering that ahhs effect if you will

540
00:27:08,149 --> 00:27:04,289
ceased when it got over the back of the

541
00:27:09,919 --> 00:27:08,159
drive-in theater and here's where the

542
00:27:12,950 --> 00:27:09,929
really weird part as where does all that

543
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:12,960
was when that I watched till it

544
00:27:18,499 --> 00:27:14,970
disappeared over the horizon which might

545
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:18,509
have been 15 minutes 10 minutes and then

546
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:20,369
I just got back in a car along with Mike

547
00:27:26,090 --> 00:27:23,970
and we watched a movie I remember one

548
00:27:31,519 --> 00:27:26,100
point and we never talked about it at

549
00:27:32,779 --> 00:27:31,529
one point I remember going to the back

550
00:27:37,070 --> 00:27:32,789
of the concession stand where the

551
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:37,080
restrooms were and nobody said a word

552
00:27:44,570 --> 00:27:42,570
about this thing nothing and it did my

553
00:27:48,289 --> 00:27:44,580
business of course and everybody was

554
00:27:49,820 --> 00:27:48,299
kind of mute and mumbling you know and I

555
00:27:51,470 --> 00:27:49,830
just got back in the car with Mike we

556
00:27:56,180 --> 00:27:51,480
finished the movie at least I think we

557
00:27:58,279 --> 00:27:56,190
did and we left and I never we we never

558
00:27:59,659 --> 00:27:58,289
talked about it and that's what we weird

559
00:28:01,849 --> 00:27:59,669
I wouldn't thought that the whole place

560
00:28:04,370 --> 00:28:01,859
would have huddled and gathered together

561
00:28:08,510 --> 00:28:04,380
and tried to figure nobody

562
00:28:12,230 --> 00:28:08,520
setup thing and I left I dropped my

563
00:28:20,660 --> 00:28:12,240
coffee early and went home now I have no

564
00:28:23,180 --> 00:28:20,670
idea how long that all took I don't

565
00:28:26,690 --> 00:28:23,190
remember looking at my watch or checking

566
00:28:29,630 --> 00:28:26,700
I'm just assuming that I that the that

567
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:29,640
this sighting took place over a matter

568
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:32,610
of 20 minutes maybe it could have been

569
00:28:40,790 --> 00:28:36,330
much longer that's just a guess though I

570
00:28:43,810 --> 00:28:40,800
am no recall but I do remember feeling

571
00:28:46,430 --> 00:28:43,820
very strange when it was over top of us

572
00:28:51,620 --> 00:28:46,440
again no lights no sound those

573
00:28:54,050 --> 00:28:51,630
spotlights nothing just black well I

574
00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:54,060
kind of forgot about it believe it or

575
00:29:02,090 --> 00:28:58,410
not and a couple years later I happened

576
00:29:05,540 --> 00:29:02,100
to be in a bookstore and I saw Edward

577
00:29:09,020 --> 00:29:05,550
brew Pelt's book the report on identify

578
00:29:10,940 --> 00:29:09,030
flying objects in the store and I picked

579
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:10,950
that book up and thumb through it and

580
00:29:18,580 --> 00:29:13,770
when I did that was like a flood gate

581
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:18,590
open bang this whole experience came

582
00:29:26,300 --> 00:29:21,210
emerged into my consciousness and I

583
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:26,310
relived it again and thought wow now

584
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:29,610
this wasn't a saucer or anything this

585
00:29:37,660 --> 00:29:32,130
was a chevron as best I can describe it

586
00:29:52,370 --> 00:29:41,360
at that point I never looked back and I

587
00:29:57,500 --> 00:29:52,380
have been in UFO ufology ever since what

588
00:30:01,660 --> 00:29:57,510
do I believe it was I I really don't

589
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:01,670
know I gotta think it wasn't from here

590
00:30:07,310 --> 00:30:03,570
from Planet Earth

591
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:07,320
I just from what I remember I gotta

592
00:30:15,630 --> 00:30:13,770
I was not frightened during the whole

593
00:30:18,450 --> 00:30:15,640
event and I wasn't scared and Mike

594
00:30:23,060 --> 00:30:18,460
didn't seem to be of course we never we

595
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:25,890
and actually when I look back on and I

596
00:30:32,580 --> 00:30:30,730
mean aw that I had the that I had the

597
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:32,590
opportunity to witness something as

598
00:30:40,350 --> 00:30:36,130
awesome as this was but never was there

599
00:30:42,420 --> 00:30:40,360
a feeling of threat or harm now that

600
00:30:47,220 --> 00:30:42,430
just never occurred at least that I can

601
00:30:51,030 --> 00:30:47,230
consciously remember and that's my story

602
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:51,040
basically is not much other detail

603
00:30:57,390 --> 00:30:55,090
I have never queried in the paper and

604
00:31:02,430 --> 00:30:57,400
asked for affirmation from anybody else

605
00:31:04,650 --> 00:31:02,440
in this town especially with this the

606
00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:04,660
way UFOs have emerged into consciousness

607
00:31:09,510 --> 00:31:07,360
of the planet basically so much

608
00:31:14,220 --> 00:31:09,520
different now than it was when I was a

609
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:14,230
young punk in college but now I'm I

610
00:31:19,140 --> 00:31:16,210
don't think it would be too good of an

611
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:19,150
idea for me to report this I'm not even

612
00:31:23,460 --> 00:31:21,490
quite sure how I would go about phrasing

613
00:31:25,770 --> 00:31:23,470
the question if I were to put something

614
00:31:28,110 --> 00:31:25,780
in the paper and asked for somebody to

615
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:28,120
step forward and say were you there or

616
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:31,360
yeah I was there but and I'm afraid of

617
00:31:36,150 --> 00:31:33,370
what might come out of woodwork I just I

618
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:36,160
I don't need the affirmation personally

619
00:31:44,370 --> 00:31:39,370
I know like the movie says I know what I

620
00:31:47,150 --> 00:31:44,380
saw and and that's that again the

621
00:31:51,450 --> 00:31:47,160
strange thing is this is the

622
00:31:53,940 --> 00:31:51,460
disappearance of action or remembering

623
00:31:58,670 --> 00:31:53,950
of the event until until a little bit

624
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:03,300
so again that's that's my that's my

625
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:09,900
I thank you Ryan for listening to me

626
00:32:14,910 --> 00:32:13,090
and for taking this report and and I

627
00:32:18,750 --> 00:32:14,920
hope this helps somebody else along the

628
00:32:21,019 --> 00:32:18,760
way deal with the experience some people

629
00:32:24,470 --> 00:32:21,029
may not deal with it too well

630
00:32:27,049 --> 00:32:24,480
and I might add I have never consciously

631
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:27,059
have no recall have ever seen something

632
00:32:33,350 --> 00:32:31,049
again a couple of bright lights moving

633
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:33,360
really weird when I was in the service

634
00:32:38,419 --> 00:32:35,730
at the middle of the ocean yeah but

635
00:32:42,519 --> 00:32:38,429
never anything I could identify as a

636
00:32:45,139 --> 00:32:42,529
craft but I did see lights in the ocean

637
00:32:49,419 --> 00:32:45,149
or I should say in the sky above the

638
00:32:52,370 --> 00:32:49,429
ocean that didn't act normal

639
00:32:54,850 --> 00:32:52,380
zigzag back and forth that type of thing

640
00:32:57,769 --> 00:32:54,860
so that was a little strange too but

641
00:33:00,830 --> 00:32:57,779
anyway that's it Ryan thank you so much

642
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:00,840
I appreciate it and I hope this helps

643
00:33:16,869 --> 00:33:06,809
somebody deal with their event and best

644
00:33:24,970 --> 00:33:21,980
was born in 1212 51 I was raised in

645
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:24,980
small town of Perl Illinois on route 100

646
00:33:34,399 --> 00:33:30,210
about 140 miles north of st. Louis on

647
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:34,409
the Illinois River I had some friends

648
00:33:40,869 --> 00:33:37,529
that worked at the fish market and

649
00:33:47,389 --> 00:33:40,879
occasionally I'd go down there it was

650
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:47,399
kind of worn that night and we were

651
00:33:51,379 --> 00:33:49,049
standing there alongside the river and

652
00:33:52,730 --> 00:33:51,389
looking North I saw a light coming down

653
00:33:57,350 --> 00:33:52,740
the river and I thought it was a barge

654
00:33:59,060 --> 00:33:57,360
at first and I kept watching it but it

655
00:34:00,379 --> 00:33:59,070
didn't look like a barge light it was

656
00:34:03,619 --> 00:34:00,389
about where a barge light should have

657
00:34:05,119 --> 00:34:03,629
been maybe a little higher but it didn't

658
00:34:07,399 --> 00:34:05,129
sweep back and forth it was just a

659
00:34:09,139 --> 00:34:07,409
bright point light to look at and then

660
00:34:12,319 --> 00:34:09,149
continued to move towards us down the

661
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:12,329
river toward the south and I called BIM

662
00:34:20,210 --> 00:34:14,970
over there Michael Shanks his nickname

663
00:34:23,089 --> 00:34:20,220
was BIM and I said what is that and he

664
00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:23,099
said that's our UFO and I said you're

665
00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:25,200
kidding me he says nah he said you keep

666
00:34:29,059 --> 00:34:27,599
watching it'll come down here to go up

667
00:34:32,059 --> 00:34:29,069
over the railroad bridge right here in

668
00:34:33,619 --> 00:34:32,069
front of us he said it'll turn in and it

669
00:34:34,490 --> 00:34:33,629
will fly right up there over the top of

670
00:34:37,879 --> 00:34:34,500
the

671
00:34:41,570 --> 00:34:37,889
power tower we had a coal-fired power

672
00:34:44,030 --> 00:34:41,580
plant in town and one of the power lines

673
00:34:47,450 --> 00:34:44,040
ran over the top of the mine hill it was

674
00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:47,460
a quarry rock quarry a mine in there as

675
00:34:50,540 --> 00:34:49,110
we watched this thing came down the

676
00:34:54,919 --> 00:34:50,550
river came up over the bridge just like

677
00:34:55,909 --> 00:34:54,929
he said it would it turned and now as

678
00:34:58,820 --> 00:34:55,919
it's passing us

679
00:35:01,960 --> 00:34:58,830
it couldn't been more than just I don't

680
00:35:06,170 --> 00:35:01,970
know closer than a quarter of a mile I

681
00:35:06,590 --> 00:35:06,180
would say probably close to 1/8 of a

682
00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:06,600
mile

683
00:35:11,540 --> 00:35:10,110
it's a railroad track - right by us and

684
00:35:15,050 --> 00:35:11,550
it went up and hovered over this power

685
00:35:18,470 --> 00:35:15,060
line Tower we jumped in my 70 Charger

686
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:18,480
r/t and we drove up a farmer's Road to

687
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:22,850
get to it we drove out into this field

688
00:35:28,820 --> 00:35:25,890
there's a steep ruddy Hill that we had

689
00:35:30,290 --> 00:35:28,830
to go up there's an arrow we got up

690
00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:30,300
there and just as soon as we pulled into

691
00:35:35,150 --> 00:35:32,640
the alfalfa field where we could see it

692
00:35:39,590 --> 00:35:35,160
it started to move away towards the

693
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:39,600
southwest it crossed over town turned

694
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:44,010
south and headed down over all Pearl and

695
00:35:48,980 --> 00:35:46,890
we turned the car around and back down

696
00:35:52,010 --> 00:35:48,990
the hill and we went down the gas bill

697
00:35:57,710 --> 00:35:52,020
hill spring down route 100 about a mile

698
00:36:01,010 --> 00:35:57,720
and turned north turned west up a gravel

699
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:01,020
road past gospel Hill sprang up onto the

700
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:03,570
Prairie and we came to an intersection

701
00:36:07,730 --> 00:36:05,010
up there we stopped we started looking

702
00:36:09,830 --> 00:36:07,740
around for it we didn't see anything but

703
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:09,840
stars at that point but in a moment it

704
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:13,050
just popped on appeared over a field not

705
00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:16,410
too far from us I would say it was

706
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:19,680
probably might have been a hundred feet

707
00:36:24,950 --> 00:36:20,610
off the ground

708
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:24,960
it wasn't very high and we watched it

709
00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:27,690
and it flew a little ways we was still

710
00:36:34,190 --> 00:36:30,510
looking west and this disc was probably

711
00:36:37,460 --> 00:36:34,200
about thirty feet in diameter brilliant

712
00:36:41,810 --> 00:36:37,470
white to look at never made a sound and

713
00:36:44,170 --> 00:36:41,820
it flew off towards the south and over

714
00:36:46,190 --> 00:36:44,180
time I learned that it came through

715
00:36:48,410 --> 00:36:46,200
three to four times a week around

716
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:48,420
midnight

717
00:36:52,430 --> 00:36:49,770
and we chased it several more times

718
00:36:55,940 --> 00:36:52,440
after that but one night I was with

719
00:36:59,960 --> 00:36:55,950
another friend of mine in his mom's car

720
00:37:02,750 --> 00:36:59,970
Leslee island and we was coming from the

721
00:37:04,310 --> 00:37:02,760
roller skating rink that night and he

722
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:04,320
didn't know about this thing I hadn't

723
00:37:09,050 --> 00:37:06,930
told him and we was pulling into town

724
00:37:11,420 --> 00:37:09,060
and I saw it hovering over the it's

725
00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:11,430
about 11:30 at night saw it hovering

726
00:37:16,510 --> 00:37:13,680
over the tower and I told him I said get

727
00:37:19,790 --> 00:37:16,520
it I said just inside the sandbags here

728
00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:19,800
there's a levee that goes around the

729
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:22,710
town I said pull over we'll get out and

730
00:37:26,990 --> 00:37:26,010
we'll watch this thing so we got out of

731
00:37:28,430 --> 00:37:27,000
the car and we're standing there

732
00:37:31,010 --> 00:37:28,440
watching it we're right in the town

733
00:37:36,290 --> 00:37:31,020
limits Pearl's not very big had a

734
00:37:37,490 --> 00:37:36,300
population of around 500 back then and

735
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:37,500
it looked to me like the light was

736
00:37:41,210 --> 00:37:39,570
getting bigger but it wasn't it was

737
00:37:45,860 --> 00:37:41,220
coming straight at us and it flew down

738
00:37:48,020 --> 00:37:45,870
and hovered just I don't know maybe four

739
00:37:49,930 --> 00:37:48,030
or five six feet above the road right in

740
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:49,940
front of it's just a few steps from us

741
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:52,290
and we was looking toward the east at

742
00:37:58,370 --> 00:37:55,530
this point it had a black area it was

743
00:38:04,370 --> 00:37:58,380
narrower at the top wider at the bottom

744
00:38:06,770 --> 00:38:04,380
and I don't know I would say it was I'm

745
00:38:08,980 --> 00:38:06,780
gonna say it was 30 feet across but it

746
00:38:15,740 --> 00:38:08,990
was a deep-dish saucer it wasn't thin

747
00:38:17,300 --> 00:38:15,750
but it wasn't an orb either and I was

748
00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:17,310
standing there kind of mesmerized by it

749
00:38:23,660 --> 00:38:21,710
I thought oh it's beautiful and Bush was

750
00:38:26,810 --> 00:38:23,670
frightened by it and he jumped in the

751
00:38:29,660 --> 00:38:26,820
car and and his excitement he put it in

752
00:38:31,340 --> 00:38:29,670
Drive instead of reverse I just barely

753
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:31,350
got out of the way and I jumped in the

754
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:34,110
car on the move and by the time I got

755
00:38:38,090 --> 00:38:36,570
the door shut and he hit the brakes I

756
00:38:39,500 --> 00:38:38,100
looked through the windshield and I was

757
00:38:45,020 --> 00:38:39,510
looking straight up at this thing just a

758
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:45,030
few feet above the car and it just never

759
00:38:50,090 --> 00:38:47,610
made a sound it just lifted up went

760
00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:50,100
towards the south on the same route that

761
00:38:59,430 --> 00:38:52,560
I'd seen it go before and it just flew

762
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:03,160
to tell my mom and dad about it and dad

763
00:39:08,500 --> 00:39:06,130
and Gina had my sister Gina had just

764
00:39:11,230 --> 00:39:08,510
just come in from feeding the ponies at

765
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:11,240
the farm and they had seen it flying

766
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:13,610
away - and they was talking about it

767
00:39:17,470 --> 00:39:15,890
when we got there they came in a what we

768
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:17,480
call the shortcut it was the back way to

769
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:19,970
the house we went around a long way

770
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:24,890
through town so we told him what we saw

771
00:39:29,410 --> 00:39:28,010
on Gina believe me but dad didn't he

772
00:39:34,930 --> 00:39:29,420
said all it had to be a helicopter or

773
00:39:38,290 --> 00:39:34,940
something I said no it wasn't but that's

774
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:38,300
what we saw and to me it mesmerized me I

775
00:39:44,980 --> 00:39:41,450
had seen it before and I was fascinated

776
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:44,990
with it Leslie on the other hand he was

777
00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:47,770
spooked by it he did not like it and

778
00:39:52,810 --> 00:39:49,910
didn't want to be around it certainly

779
00:39:56,170 --> 00:39:52,820
didn't want to be that close to it it

780
00:39:58,240 --> 00:39:56,180
was definitely a flying saucer other

781
00:40:00,880 --> 00:39:58,250
than that that that changed my life

782
00:40:02,770 --> 00:40:00,890
since I'd been told there's no such

783
00:40:05,170 --> 00:40:02,780
thing as ghosts and there's and we was

784
00:40:07,390 --> 00:40:05,180
raised in a haunted house there's no

785
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:07,400
such thing as aliens or flying saucers

786
00:40:12,340 --> 00:40:09,170
were the only creatures that God ever

787
00:40:17,500 --> 00:40:12,350
made and I found out that both were

788
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:17,510
untrue the paranormal does exist aliens

789
00:40:24,300 --> 00:40:22,250
and flying saucers do exist and I've

790
00:40:27,820 --> 00:40:24,310
been investigating these things since

791
00:40:34,570 --> 00:40:33,040
I hope that everyone understands that

792
00:40:35,950 --> 00:40:34,580
when you see something like that whether

793
00:40:36,820 --> 00:40:35,960
you believe in or nice basically if you

794
00:40:38,650 --> 00:40:36,830
don't believe in it

795
00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:38,660
once you see something like that your

796
00:40:43,150 --> 00:40:40,160
life has changed forever even though who

797
00:41:52,950 --> 00:40:56,760
[Music]

798
00:42:25,510 --> 00:41:52,960
[Applause]

799
00:44:33,960 --> 00:42:38,650
[Music]

800
00:44:35,730 --> 00:44:33,970
somewhere in the skies is produced by

801
00:44:37,860 --> 00:44:35,740
Third Kind productions in association

802
00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:37,870
with antica productions and the antic a

803
00:44:47,310 --> 00:44:39,730
podcast network to learn more visit

804
00:44:50,130 --> 00:44:47,320
antigua productions calm do you like

805
00:44:53,420 --> 00:44:50,140
mystery unsolved cases of missing

806
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:53,430
persons strange cases of UFO sightings

807
00:44:59,340 --> 00:44:56,650
historic hauntings unexplained events

808
00:45:02,400 --> 00:44:59,350
and simply weird and wonderful stories

809
00:45:04,500 --> 00:45:02,410
well join us each Sunday on our second

810
00:45:05,010 --> 00:45:04,510
season of unsolved mysteries of the

811
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:05,020
world

812
00:45:10,290 --> 00:45:07,450
our podcast is available on iTunes

813
00:45:13,110 --> 00:45:10,300
stitcher pot bean or your favorite

814
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:13,120
podcast directory after you are finished

815
00:45:18,210 --> 00:45:14,890
listening to somewhere in the skies

816
00:45:19,890 --> 00:45:18,220
search for us on Facebook and join us to

817
00:45:20,910 --> 00:45:19,900
uncover some of the world's strangest

818
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:20,920
mysteries

819
00:45:28,100 --> 00:45:24,170
world